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Legalytics Deep Dive #2: The Changing Face of Supreme Court Oral Arguments – Above the Law

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by
Collection
of
the
Supreme
Court
of
the
United
States
via
Getty
Images)

Perhaps
more
than
any
other
Supreme
Court
tradition,
oral
arguments
have
gone
through
significant
changes
over
the
years.
The
Supreme
Court
is
as
old
as
the
nation
even
though
the
first
oral
arguments
were
not
held
until
the
1790s.
While
presently
it
may
feel
like
oral
argument
practice
and
procedure
are
relatively
static.
There
have
been
many
historic
changes
including
drastically
shortening
the
length
of
these
arguments.
Perhaps
two
of
the
greatest
modern
changes
to
Supreme
Court
oral
argument
are
the
emergence
of
the
“hot
bench”
and
more
recently
the
impact
of
the
Covid-19
pandemic
on
oral
argument
practice.

Oral
arguments
were
historically
a
time
for
attorneys
to
convey
the
important
points
supporting
their
positions,
and
for
the
justices
to
confront
these
points
to
focus
the
attorneys
on
areas
that
could
assist
with
decision-making.
Many
Court
watchers
have
pointed
to
the
emergence
of
Justice
Scalia
on
the
Court
in
the
mid-1980’s
as
the
point
where
the
Court
went
from
a
more
passive
receiver
of
information
to
a
more
active
forum
where
the
justices
limited
the
attorneys
to
answering
questions
rather
than
expostulating
on
points
the
attorneys
found
relevant.
This
is
where
the
phrase

“hot
bench”
 gained
notoriety.
Different
permutations
of
justices
have changed
the
nature
of
the
“hot
bench”
 since
the
1980’s.

The
other
phenomenon
has
to
do
with
argument
format
and
time.
Modern
Supreme
Court
oral
arguments
have
typically
run
an
hour
per
case
with
half
an
hour
per
side.
There
are
exceptions
to
this
rule
including
the lengthy
arguments
 in
the first
Affordable
Care
Act
case
 in
2012.
Covid-19
shifted
things
though
across
the
board.
Arguments
went
remote.
As
a
byproduct
and
due
to
the
inability
for
the
justices
to
see
one
another,
Chief
Justice
Roberts
began
calling
the
justices
to
speak
in
solo
turns,
which
was
a
big
change
from
the
free-for-all
that
existed
before
this.
This
turn
taking
had
unexpected
consequences,
including
leading
Justice
Thomas
who
was
almost
always
reticent
to
speak
during
oral
argument
since
he
joined
the
Court
in
1991,
to
become
regular
participant
 during
these
proceedings.
Since
the
Court
has
gone
back
to
its
in-person
format,
the
vestige
of
turn
taking
has
remained,
as
now
arguments
have
turn
taking
and
free
form
components.
The
remainder
of
this
post
looks
at
how
these
transformations
have
shifted
the
nature
of
oral
arguments.

Joan
Biskupic wrote for
CNN
in
2022:

“Yet
another
Supreme
Court
case
had
gone
nearly
twice
as
long
as
scheduled

a
pattern
testing
the
nerves
of
the
justices
this
fall.
Some
exchange
glances
when
a
loquacious
colleague
engages
in
protracted
questioning.
Many
interrupt
answers
to
queries
simply
to
get
their
own
in.
Roberts,
in
the
center
chair
and
keeping
track
of
the
interjections
from
the
left
and
right,
often
looks
weary,
leaning
head
on
hand.”

PBS
News reported
last
year:

“Arguments
that
usually
lasted
an
hour
in
the
morning
have
stretched
well
beyond
two,
and
on
many
days
it’s
long
past
lunchtime
before
the
court
breaks.”

Professor
William
Baude provided
his
thoughts
for
Reason
 on
the
turn
taking
approach:

“It
makes
Supreme
Court
oral
arguments
sound
more
and
more
like
congressional
hearings,
where
each
member
is
really
just
waiting
for
their
turn
to
say
their
piece,
with
the
advocate
or
witness
an
incidental
prop.
I
don’t
think
that’s
been
good
for
legislative
committees
and
I
don’t
think
it
will
be
good
for
the
Court
either.”

The
arguments
have
gotten
considerably
longer
since
the
Covid-19
changes
to
argument
protocol
and
there
are
no
signs
that
this
will
change
anytime
soon.
Here
are
the
numbers
through
arguments
so
far
this
term.


These
point
to
a
40%
increase
in
argument
time
from
2019
to
the
height
in
2022.
While
there
has
been
some
drop
off
in
the
average
argument
time
since
2022,
the
five
minute
on
average
decrease
is
still
more
than
20
minutes
longer
on
average
than
arguments
in
2019
(which
in
turn
were
the
longest
since
prior
to
the
2010
Term).

While
this
impacts
but
the
time
justices
and
attorneys
speak,
the
time
differences
between
attorneys
and
justices
as
well
as
between
justices
and
other
justices
have
not
been
equal.
Here
is
a
look
at
how
the
split
times
for
attorneys
and
justices
have
changed
since
2010
in
absolute
terms:


The
steady
rise
from
2019
through
2022
and
then
the
slight
drop
to
the
present
are
visible
for
both
attorneys
and
justices,
although
the
rise
for
attorneys
from
2020
through
2022
seems
more
pronounced,
and
the
drop
since
2022
in
the
amount
of
time
taken
seems
less
dramatic
for
justices
than
for
attorneys.
To
focus
in
on
the
comparative
angle
though,
the
following
graph
presents
in
ratio
form
the
changing
fraction
of
time
attorneys
have
taken
(relative
to
the
justices)
during
oral
argument
since
the
2010
Term.


The
relative
amount
of
time
attorneys
speak
fluctuated
quite
a
bit
from
2010
to
2015.
The
low
point
for
the
entire
period
and
the
only
time
the
justices
spoke
more
in
the
aggregate
than
the
attorneys
on
average
was
in
2014.
The
biggest
jump
was
from
2014
to
2015
where
the
attorneys
moved
the
needle
about
10%
in
their
direction.
Since
then
and
especially
since
the
onset
of
Covid
in
2020
(the
second
part
of
the
2019
Term),
the
fluctuations
have
smoothed
out
to
where
attorneys
are
speaking
just
over
55%
of
the
time.

Another
logical
question
is
which
justices
have
shifted
their
amount
of
speech
over
this
period.

Interruptions
have
been
examined
in
the
past
both
as
a
general
pattern,
and
in
the
context
of
attorneys based
on
the
genders
 of
the
interrupter
and
interruptee.
The
examination
below
is
agnostic
as
to
gender
but
looks
at
change
over
time.
Justice-to-attorney
interruptions
are
quite
frequent
and
have
increased
over
time.


The
lowest
point
of
interruptions
of
attorneys
was
in
the
heart
of
Covid-19.
Prior
to
Covid
the
numbers
were
relatively
stable
at
around
50
per
argument.
Interruptions
since
the
justices
returned
to
the
Supreme
Court
building
post-Covid
have
shot
up
over
20
per
argument
more
on
average
than
prior
to
the
2020
Term.

Similar
to
talking
time
though,
behavior
in
this
mode
is
not
monolithic.
The
justices
engage
in
differing
amounts
of
interruptive
behavior
and
vary
in
this
respect
over
time.


The
greatest
increase
is
from
Justice
Gorsuch
whose
number
of
interruptions
doubled
between
2020
and
the
current
term.
Justice
Jackson’s
average
is
up
so
far
this
term
and
Justice
Kagan
is
tracking
in
a
slightly
upward
direction.
Justice
Sotomayor’s
numbers
show
a
lot
of
noise
but
are
generally
up
since
2010,
the
year
after
she
joined
the
Court.
Chief
Justice
Roberts’s
averages
are
the
only
ones
with
a
clear
and
steady
downward
slope
both
in
general
and
since
2019
in
particular.

·
Oral
arguments
are
taking
longer
and
there
is
no
evidence
that
this
will
change
soon.

·
Attorneys
are
speaking
more
on
the
balance
(than
the
justices)
since
the
2014
Term
but
this
ratio
is
about
on
par
with
where
it
was
in
2010

·
Even
if
2020
was
an
outlier
term
due
to
Covid-19,
justices’
interruptions
of
attorneys
are
way
up
since
pre-Covid
years
although
they’ve
shown
a
slight
decrease
over
the
past
few
terms.

·
Justice
Gorsuch
and
Kagan
are
both
speaking
more
and
are
jumping
in
more
frequently
while
attorneys
are
speaking.
Although
there
are
changes
in
the
other
justices’
behavior
these
two
show
the
most
prominent
changes.


Some
articles
on
the
history
of
Supreme
Court
oral
arguments
(with
quote
snippets)
:

  • In
    his
    article From
    Webster
    to
    Word-Processing:
    The
    Ascendance
    of
    the
    Appellate
    Brief,
    previous
    Chief
    Justice
     William
    Rehnquist
    charts
    a
    path
    through
    some
    of
    these
    changes.
    These
    include:

    • Until
      1821,
      the
      Supreme
      Court
      did
      not
      even
      require
      briefs
      from
      the
      parties.
    • In
      1849,
      the
      Supreme
      Court
      adopted
      a
      rule
      limiting
      oral
      argument
      in
      each
      case
      to
      two
      hours
      per
      side,
      but
      exceptions
      were
      still
      made
      for
      very
      important
      cases.
    • In Ex
      parte
      Milligan
      …argued
      in
      1866,
      the
      oral
      arguments
      continued
      for
      six
      days.
  • David
    Frederick wrote (behind
    a
    paywall):

    • In
      its
      first
      decade,
      the
      Supreme
      Court
      hewed
      to
      the
      English
      oral
      tradition
      of
      appellate
      litigation.
      As
      a
      practical
      matter,
      however,
      even
      that
      tradition
      was
      rather
      informal
      and
      somewhat
      irregular
      throughout
      the
      1790s.
    • Hence,
      in
      1795,
      a
      change
      in
      the
      rules
      advised
      that
      “[t]he
      Court
      gave
      notice
      to
      the
      gentlemen
      of
      the
      bar,
      that
      hereafter
      [the
      Justices]
      will
      expect
      to
      be
      furnished
      with
      a
      statement
      of
      the
      material
      points
      of
      the
      case.
    • During
      the
      Marshall
      Court
      years,
      the
      Court
      began
      a
      steady
      retrenchment
      away
      from
      unlimited
      oral
      arguments
      that
      stemmed
      from
      adoption
      of
      the
      rule
      in
      1792
      incorporating
      King’s
      Bench
      practice.
      In
      1812,
      the
      Court
      issued
      a
      rule
      limiting
      oral
      argument
      to
      only
      two
      counsel
      per
      side
    • Over
      the
      next
      hundred
      years,
      the
      time
      allotted
      to
      oral
      argument
      would
      be
      shortened
      still
      further,
      from
      two
      hours
      per
      side
      to
      thirty
      minutes
      per
      side,
      which
      prevails
      today
      except
      in
      the
      most
      unusual
      cases.
  • Chief
    Justice Roberts
    noted
     (behind
    a
    paywall):
    “the
    sharp
    decline
    in
    the
    number
    of
    opportunities
    for
    lawyers
    to
    argue
    before
    the
    Court
    has
    been
    accompanied,
    perhaps
    paradoxically
    or
    perhaps
    not,
    by
    an
    even
    more
    dramatic
    rise
    in
    the
    number
    of
    experienced
    Supreme
    Court
    advocates
    appearing
    before
    the
    Court,
    both
    in
    absolute
    terms
    and
    proportionately.”

*
Data
sources: Oyez oral
argument
transcripts
and Jake
Truscott’s
SCOTUSText
 package
in
R.



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