Donald Trump Reaches Across The Aisle In Most Dystopian Way Possible – Above the Law

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by
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Images)

Donald
Trump
began
his
second
term
in
office
with
mass
pardons
for
everyone
convicted
of
January
6th
offenses

yes,
even
the
violent
ones.
The
move
reeks
of
naked
partisanism,
as
those
who
would
literally
take
to
the
streets
in
defense
of
Leader
Trump
were
rewarded
for
the
fealty.

But
Trump
is
now
using
the
extraordinary
power
of
the
executive
in
a
superficial
nonpartisan,
but
still
decidedly
corrupt
ways.

Yesterday,
Trump
issued
a
full
pardon
for
former
Democratic
Illinois
Gov.
Rod
Blagojevich.
Blago
was
convicted
of
trying
to
sell
Barack
Obama’s
senate
seat
after
he
won
the
2008
presidential
election
amongst
other
crimes,
as

reported
by

NBC
News:

Blagojevich
was
convicted
in
2009
of
lying
to
an
FBI
agent.
Jurors deadlocked on
other
counts.
At
his
2011
retrial,
he
was
found
guilty
on
all
counts,
after
government
recordings
revealed
his
attempts
to
sell
Obama’s
seat.
He
was
also
convicted
of
shaking
down
a
children’s
hospital
executive
for
campaign
contributions
and
holding
up
a
bill
involving
the
horse-racing
industry
in
exchange
for
campaign
contributions.

NBC
helpfully
follows
this
up
with
a
particularly
relevant
tidbit:
“In
between
the
trials,
he
was
a
contestant
on
Trump’s
reality
TV
show
‘The
Celebrity
Apprentice’
in
2010.”
Ahhhh,
there
you
have
it.

In
Trump’s
first
term
as
president,
he
commuted
Blagojevich’s
sentence


after
watching

the
disgraced
former
governor’s
wife
on
TV
talking
smack
about
his
enemies
(Robert
Muller
and
James
Comey)
while
she
pleaded
for
her
husband’s
release.

But
that’s
not
the
only
victory
yesterday
for
Democrats
accused
of
being
on
the
take.


Trump’s
Department
of
Justice

directed
prosecutors
in
the
Southern
District
of
New
York
to
drop
their

case
against

New
York
City
Mayor
Eric
Adams.
Adams
was
to
face
trial
in
April
on
charges
of
conspiracy,
bribery,
and
solicitation
of
foreign
campaign
contributions.
But
Acting
Deputy
Attorney
General
Emil
Bove
directed
the
dismissal
of
the
case
“without
assessing
the
strength
of
the
evidence
or
the
legal
theories
on
which
the
case
is
based,”
because
Adams
needs
to
“devote
full
attention
and
resources
to
the
illegal
immigration
and
violent
crime
that
escalated
under
the
policies
of
the
prior
administration.”

And,
of
course,
let’s
not
forget
the

time
and
effort

Adams

spent
being

a
sycophant,
and

blessing
Trump’s
agenda
.

These
moves
are
a
victory
for
the
twin
pillars
of
the
Trump
administration

corruption
and
obsequiousness.
And
a
blow
for
justice.




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A Compendium of Legal Ethics Opinions on Gen AI (As Compiled by – You Guessed It – Gen AI)

This
week,
I
have
been
experimenting
with

Deep
Research
,
the
AI
agent
OpenAI
released
on
Sunday
that
it
says
is
capable
of
completing
multi-step
research
tasks
and
synthesizing
large
amounts
of
online
information.
Not
to
be
confused
with
the
controversial
Chinese
AI
product
DeepSeek),
Deep
Research
is
said
to
be


particularly
useful
for
people
in
fields
such
as
finance,
science
and
law.

Already
this
week,
I
published
two
of
these
experiments.
In
the
first,

I
used
it


to
analyze
the
legality
of
President
Trump’s
pause
of
federal
grants
.
In
about
10
minutes,
it
produced
a
9,000
word
detailed
memorandum,
concluding
that
the
pause
“appears
to
rest
on
shaky
legal
ground.”

Next,
I
used
it
to
research
and
recommend
the
best
law
practice
management
suite
for
a
four-lawyer
firm.
It

produced
a
fairly
detailed
response
,
including
two
charts
comparing
features,
pricing,
usability,
security,
support
and
user
satisfaction.

For
today’s
task,
I
asked
it
to
create
a
report
detailing
every
legal
ethics
opinion
pertaining
to
generative
AI.
Here
was
my
exact
prompt:

“Create
a
report
detailing
every
legal
ethics
opinion
from
every
national,
state,
local
and
specialty
bar
association
or
lawyer
licensing
body
pertaining
to
the
ethics
of
lawyers’
use
of
generative
artificial
intelligence.”

It
responded
to
my
prompt
with
several
questions
about
the
scope
of
the
research
I’d
requested,
such
as
whether
it
should
focus
only
on
formal
ethics
opinions
or
also
include
informal
guidance.
After
I
answered
its
questions,
it
produced
the
report
published
below.
After
it
produced
the
report,
I
asked
it
to
also
summarize
the
findings
in
a
chart,
which
is
what
you
see
immediately
below.

I
have
not
verified
that
this
is
a
complete
list.
If
anyone
knows
where
I
can
find
a
complete
list
to
compare
against,
please
let
me
know.

That
said,
I
was
again
impressed
by
its
ability
to
conduct
comprehensive
research
across
multiple
sources
and
generate
a
report.
The
entire
task
took
it
15
minutes.

Issuing
Body
Opinion
Title/Number
Date
Issued
Key
Themes
Disclosure
Required
Billing
Guidance

ABA
Formal
Opinion
512
July
2024
Competence,
Confidentiality,
Supervision,
Candor,
Fees
Case-dependent AI
efficiency
should
reduce
fees

California
Practical
Guidance
November
2023
Confidentiality,
Competence,
AI
Disclosure,
Supervision
Not
mandatory,
but
recommended
Efficiency
gains
must
be
fair
to
clients

Florida
Advisory
Opinion
24-1
January
2024
Confidentiality,
Supervision,
Fees,
AI
Transparency
Client
informed
consent
advised
Must
not
charge
for
AI
time
savings

New
York
State
Bar
Task
Force
Report
April
2024
Competence,
Bias,
AI
Oversight,
Client
Communication
Recommended
in
certain
cases
Clients
should
benefit
from
AI-driven
efficiency

New
York
City
Bar
Formal
Opinion
2024-5
August
2024
Confidentiality,
Competence,
Supervision,
AI
Disclosure
Required
for
external
AI
use
No
overcharging
for
AI
use

New
Jersey
Supreme
Court
Preliminary
Guidelines
January
2024
Competence,
Candor,
Supervision,
AI
Verification
Not
always,
but
recommended
No
billing
for
time
not
actually
spent

Pennsylvania
&
Philadelphia
Bars
Joint
Opinion
2024-200
June
2024
Competence,
Candor,
AI
Hallucinations,
Billing
Ethics
Yes,
in
some
AI
use
cases
Cannot
bill
AI
time
as
manual
work

Kentucky
Ethics
Opinion
KBA
E-457
March
2024
Competence,
AI
Use
in
Billing,
Supervision,
Client
Consent
Depends
on
AI’s
impact
on
case
Cannot
bill
for
AI
learning
time

North
Carolina
Formal
Ethics
Opinion
2024-1
November
2024
Competence,
Supervision,
Confidentiality,
AI
Oversight
Not
always,
but
must
protect
confidentiality
AI-based
efficiency
should
lower
costs

Texas
Proposed
Opinion
2024-6
November
2024
Competence,
Confidentiality,
AI
Trustworthiness,
Supervision
Not
explicitly
required
Fair
pricing
required
for
AI
use

Virginia
AI
Guidance
Update
August
2024
Confidentiality,
Billing,
Supervision,
AI
Court
Compliance
Not
mandated
but
recommended
AI
costs
must
align
with
ethical
billing

D.C.
Bar
Ethics
Opinion
388
September
2024
Competence,
AI
Verification,
Supervision,
Client
Files
Required
in
specific
situations
No
excess
fees
for
AI
use

USPTO
Practice
Guidance
(2023–2024)
April
2024
Candor,
Confidentiality,
AI
Use
in
Legal
Submissions
Court
compliance
required
Legal
AI
use
cannot
inflate
costs


National
Bar
Associations


American
Bar
Association

Formal
Opinion
512
(July
2024)

The
ABA
Standing
Committee
on
Ethics
and
Professional
Responsibility
issued

Formal
Opinion
512,
“Generative
Artificial
Intelligence
Tools,”
on
July
29,
2024
​.

americanbar.org


americanbar.org
.
This
is
the
ABA’s
first
ethics
guidance
focused
on
generative
AI
use
by
lawyers.
It
instructs
attorneys
to

“fully
consider
their
applicable
ethical
obligations,
including
their
duties
to
provide
competent
legal
representation,
to
protect
client
information,
to
communicate
with
clients,
to
supervise
their
employees
and
agents,
to
advance
only
meritorious
claims
and
contentions,
to
ensure
candor
toward
the
tribunal,
and
to
charge
reasonable
fees.”


jenkinslaw.org

In
short,
existing
ABA
Model
Rules
apply
to
AI
just
as
they
do
to
any
technology.


Key
concerns
and
recommendations:

The
opinion
emphasizes
that
lawyers
must
maintain
technological

competence


understanding
the
benefits
and
risks
of
AI
tools
they
use​

jenkinslaw.org
.
It
notes
the
duty
of

confidentiality

(Model
Rule
1.6)
requires
caution
when
inputting
client
data
into
AI
tools;
lawyers
should
ensure
no
confidential
information
is
revealed
without
informed
client
consent​

jenkinslaw.org
.
Lawyers
should
also
evaluate
whether
to

inform
or
obtain
consent
from
clients

about
AI
use,
especially
if
using
it
in
ways
that
affect
the
representation​ jenkinslaw.org.
AI
outputs
must
be
independently
verified
for
accuracy
to
fulfill
duties
of

candor

and
avoid
filing
false
or
frivolous
material
(Rules
3.3,
3.1)​

jenkinslaw.org
.
The
ABA
highlights
that
“hallucinations”
(convincing
but
false
outputs)
are
a
major
pitfall​

americanbar.org
.

Supervision

duties
(Rules
5.1
and
5.3)
mean
lawyers
must
oversee
both
subordinate
lawyers
and
nonlawyers

and

the
AI
tools
they
use​

jenkinslaw.org
.
The
opinion
also
warns
that

fees

must
be
reasonable

if
AI
improves
efficiency,
lawyers
should
not
overbill
for
time
not
actually
spent​ kaiserlaw.com.
Overall,
Formal
Op.
512
provides
a
comprehensive
framework
mapping
generative
AI
use
to
existing
ethics
rules​

americanbar.org


americanbar.org
.


(See
ABA
Formal
Op.
512


jenkinslaw.org


for
full
text.)


State
Bar
Associations
and
Regulatory
Bodies


California

“Practical
Guidance”
by
COPRAC
(November
2023)

The

State
Bar
of
California

took
early
action
by
issuing

“Practical
Guidance
for
the
Use
of
Generative
AI
in
the
Practice
of
Law,”

approved
by
the
Bar’s
Board
of
Trustees
on
Nov.
16,
2023​


calbar.ca.gov


jdsupra.com
.
Rather
than
a
formal
opinion,
it
is
a
guidance
document
(in
chart
format)
developed
by
the
Committee
on
Professional
Responsibility
and
Conduct
(COPRAC).
It
applies
California’s
Rules
of
Professional
Conduct
to
generative
AI
scenarios.


Key
points:

California’s
guidance
stresses

confidentiality


attorneys

“must
not
input
any
confidential
client
information”

into
AI
tools
that
lack
adequate
protections​

calbar.ca.gov
.
Lawyers
should
vet
an
AI
vendor’s
security
and
data
use
policies,
and

anonymize
or
refrain
from
sharing
sensitive
data

unless
certain
it
will
be
protected​

calbar.ca.gov


calbar.ca.gov
.
The

duty
of
competence
and
diligence

requires
understanding
how
the
AI
works
and
its
limitations​ jdsupra.com.
Lawyers
should
review
AI
outputs
for
accuracy
and
bias,
and

“AI
should
never
replace
a
lawyer’s
professional
judgment.”


jdsupra.com

If
AI
assists
with
research
or
drafting,
the
attorney
must
critically
review
the
results.
The
guidance
also
addresses

supervision
:
firms
should
train
and
supervise
lawyers
and
staff
in
proper
AI
use

jdsupra.com
.

Communication
with
clients

may
entail
disclosing
AI
use
in
some
cases

e.g.
if
it
materially
affects
the
representation

but
California
did

not
mandate

disclosure
in
all
instances​

jdsupra.com
.
Finally,
the
guidance
notes

candor
:
the
duty
of
candor
to
tribunals
means
attorneys
must
check
AI-generated
citations
and
facts
to
avoid
false
statements
in
court​

jdsupra.com
.
Overall,
California’s
approach
is
to
treat
AI
as
another
technology
that
must
be
used
consistent
with
existing
rules
on
competence,
confidentiality,
supervision,
etc.,
providing
“guiding
principles
rather
than
best
practices”​

calbar.ca.gov
.


(Source:
State
Bar
of
CA
Generative
AI
Guidance


jdsupra.com


jdsupra.com
.)


Florida

Advisory
Opinion
24-1
(January
2024)

The

Florida
Bar

issued

Proposed
Advisory
Opinion
24-1

in
late
2023,
which
was
adopted
by
the
Bar’s
Board
of
Governors
in
January
2024​

floridabar.org


floridabar.org
.
Titled

“Lawyers’
Use
of
Generative
AI,”

this
formal
ethics
opinion
gives
a
green
light
to
using
generative
AI

“to
the
extent
that
the
lawyer
can
reasonably
guarantee
compliance
with
the
lawyer’s
ethical
obligations.” 
floridabar.org
It
identifies
four
focus
areas:
confidentiality,
oversight,
fees,
and
advertising​

hinshawlaw.com


hinshawlaw.com
.


Key
points:


Confidentiality:

Florida
stresses
that
protecting
client
confidentiality
(Rule
4-1.6)
is
paramount.
Lawyers
should
take

“reasonable
steps
to
prevent
inadvertent
or
unauthorized
disclosure”

of
client
info
by
an
AI
system​

jdsupra.com
.
The
opinion

“advisable
to
obtain
a
client’s
informed
consent
before
using
a
third-party
AI
that
would
disclose
confidential
information.”


jdsupra.com

This
aligns
with
prior
cloud-computing
opinions.

Oversight:

Generative
AI
must
be
treated
like
a
non-lawyer
assistant

the
lawyer
must
supervise
and
vet
its
work​

jdsupra.com
.
The
opinion
warns
that
lawyers
relying
on
AI
face

“the
same
perils
as
relying
on
an
overconfident
nonlawyer
assistant”


floridabar.org
.
Attorneys
must
review
AI
outputs
(research,
drafts,
etc.)
for
accuracy
and
legal
soundness
before
use​

floridabar.org
.
Notably,
after
the
infamous

Mata
v.
Avianca

incident
of
fake
cases,
Florida
emphasizes

candor
:
no
frivolous
or
false
material
from
AI
should
be
submitted​

floridabar.org
.

Fees:

Improved
efficiency
from
AI
cannot
be
used
to
charge
inflated
fees.
A
lawyer

“can
ethically
only
charge
a
client
for
actual
costs
incurred”


time
saved
by
AI
should
not
be
billed
as
if
the
lawyer
did
the
work​

jdsupra.com
.
If
a
lawyer
will
charge
for
using
an
AI
tool
(as
a
cost),
the
client
must
be
informed
in
writing​

jdsupra.com
.
And

training
time


a
lawyer’s
time
learning
an
AI
tool


cannot

be
billed
to
the
client​

jdsupra.com
.

Advertising:

If
lawyers
advertise
their
use
of
AI,
they
must
not
be
false
or
misleading.
Florida
specifically
notes
that
if
using
a
chatbot
to
interact
with
potential
clients,
those
users
must
be
told
they
are
interacting
with
an
AI,
not
a
human
lawyer​

jdsupra.com
.
Any
claims
about
an
AI’s
capabilities
must
be
objectively
verifiable
(no
puffery
that
your
AI
is
“better”
than
others
without
proof)​

floridabar.org


floridabar.org
.
In
sum,
Florida
concludes:

“a
lawyer
may
ethically
utilize
generative
AI,
but
only
to
the
extent
the
lawyer
can
reasonably
guarantee
compliance
with
duties
of
confidentiality,
candor,
avoiding
frivolous
claims,
truthfulness,
reasonable
fees,
and
proper
advertising.”


floridabar.org
.


(Sources:
Florida
Bar
Op.
24-1


floridabar.org


jdsupra.com
.)


New
York
State
Bar
Association

Task
Force
Report
(April
2024)

The

New
York
State
Bar
Association
(NYSBA)

did
not
issue
a
formal
ethics
opinion
via
its
ethics
committee,
but
its

Task
Force
on
Artificial
Intelligence

produced
a
comprehensive

85-page
report

adopted
by
the
House
of
Delegates
on
April
6,
2024​

floridabar.org


floridabar.org
.
This
report
includes
a
chapter
on
the

“Ethical
Impact”

of
AI
on
law
practice​

floridabar.org
,
effectively
providing
guidance
to
NY
lawyers.
It
mirrors
many
concerns
seen
in
formal
opinions
elsewhere.


Key
points:

The
NYSBA
report
underscores

competence

and
cautions
against
“techno-solutionism.”
It
notes
that

“a
refusal
to
use
technology
that
makes
legal
work
more
accurate
and
efficient
may
be
considered
a
refusal
to
provide
competent
representation” 
nysba.org

nysba.org


implying
lawyers
should
stay
current
with
helpful
AI
tools.
At
the
same
time,
it
warns
attorneys
not
to
blindly
trust
AI
as
a
silver
bullet.
The
report
coins

“techno-solutionism”

as
the
overbelief
that
new
tech
(like
gen
AI)
can
solve
all
problems,
reminding
lawyers
that
human
verification
is
still
required​

nysba.org


nysba.org
.
The
infamous
Avianca
case
is
cited
to
illustrate
the
need
to

verify
AI
outputs

and
supervise
the
“nonlawyer”
tool
(AI)
under
Rule
5.3​

nysba.org
.
The
report
addresses
the

duty
of
confidentiality
&
privacy

in
depth:
Lawyers
must
ensure
client
information
isn’t
inadvertently
shared
or
used
to
train
public
AI
models​

nysba.org


nysba.org
.
It
suggests
that
if
AI
tools
store
or
learn
from
inputs,
that
raises
confidentiality
concerns​

nysba.org
.
Client
consent
or
use
of
secure
“closed”
AI
systems
may
be
needed
to
protect
privileged
data.
The
report
also
covers

supervision

(Rule
5.3)

attorneys
should
supervise
AI
use
similarly
to
how
they
supervise
human
assistants​

nysba.org
.
It
touches
on

bias

and
fairness,
noting
generative
AI
trained
on
biased
data
could
perpetuate
discrimination,
which
lawyers
must
guard
against​

lawnext.com
.
Interestingly,
the
NYSBA
guidance
also
links
AI
use
to

reasonable
fees
:
it
suggests
effective
use
of
AI
can
factor
into
whether
a
fee
is
reasonable​

jdsupra.com


jdsupra.com

(e.g.
inefficiently
refusing
to
use
available
AI
might
waste
client
money,
whereas
using
AI
and
still
charging
full
hours
might
be
unreasonable).
In
sum,
New
York’s
bar
leaders
affirm
that
ethical
duties
of
competence,
confidentiality,
and
supervision
fully
apply
to
AI.
They
encourage
using
AI’s
benefits
to
improve
service,
but
caution
against
its
risks
and
urge
ongoing
attorney
oversight

floridabar.org


floridabar.org
.


(Sources:
NYSBA
Task
Force
Report


nysba.org



nysba.org
.)


New
York
City
Bar
Association

Formal
Opinion
2024-5
(August
2024)

The

New
York
City
Bar
Association
Committee
on
Professional
Ethics

issued

Formal
Ethics
Opinion
2024-5

on
August
7,
2024​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.
This
opinion,
in
a
user-friendly
chart
format,
provides
practical
guidelines
for
NYC
lawyers
on
generative
AI.
The
Committee
explicitly
aimed
to
give
“guardrails
and
not
hard-and-fast
restrictions”
in
this
evolving
area​

nydailyrecord.com
.


Key
points:


Confidentiality:

The
NYC
Bar
draws
a
distinction
between

“closed”
AI
systems

(e.g.
an
in-house
or
vendor
tool
that
does

not

share
data
externally)
and
public
AI
services
like
ChatGPT.
If
using
an
AI
that
stores
or
shares
inputs
outside
the
firm,

client
informed
consent
is
required

before
inputting
any
confidential
information​

nydailyrecord.com
.
Even
with
closed/internal
AI,
lawyers
must
maintain
internal
confidentiality
protections.
The
opinion
warns
lawyers
to
review
AI

Terms
of
Use

regularly
to
ensure
the
provider
isn’t
using
or
exposing
client
data
without
consent​ nydailyrecord.com.

Competence:

Echoing
others,
NYC
advises
that
lawyers

“understand
to
a
reasonable
degree
how
the
technology
works,
its
limitations,
and
the
applicable
Terms
of
Use”

before
using
generative
AI​

nydailyrecord.com
.
Attorneys
should
avoid
delegating
their
professional
judgment
to
AI;
any
AI
output
is
just
a
starting
point
or
draft​

nydailyrecord.com
.
Lawyers
must
ensure
outputs
are

accurate
and
tailored
to
the
client’s
needs


essentially,

verify
everything

and
edit
AI-generated
material
so
that
it
truly
serves
the
client’s
interests​

nydailyrecord.com
.

Supervision:

Firms
should
implement
policies
and
training
for
lawyers
and
staff
on
acceptable
AI
use​

nydailyrecord.com
.
The
Committee
notes
that

client
intake
chatbots

(if
used
on
a
firm’s
website,
for
example)
require
special
oversight
to
avoid
inadvertently
forming
attorney-client
relationships
or
giving
legal
advice
without
proper
vetting​

nydailyrecord.com
.
In
other
words,
a
chatbot
interacting
with
the
public
should
be
carefully
monitored
by
lawyers
to
ensure
it
doesn’t
mislead
users
about
its
nature
or
create
unintended
obligations​

nydailyrecord.com
.
The
NYC
Bar’s
guidance
aligns
with
California’s
in
format
and
substance,
reinforcing
that
the
core
duties
of
confidentiality,
competence
(tech
proficiency),
and
supervision
all
apply
when
lawyers
use
generative
AI
tools​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.


(Source:
NYC
Bar
Formal
Op.
2024-5
nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.)


New
Jersey
Supreme
Court

Preliminary
Guidelines
(January
2024)

In
New
Jersey,
the
state’s
highest
court
itself
weighed
in.
On
January
24,
2024,
the

New
Jersey
Supreme
Court’s
Committee
on
AI
and
the
Courts

issued

“Preliminary
Guidelines
on
the
Use
of
AI
by
New
Jersey
Lawyers,”

which
were
published
as
a
Notice
to
the
Bar​

njcourts.gov


njcourts.gov
.
These
guidelines,
effective
immediately,
aim
to
help
NJ
lawyers
comply
with
existing
Rules
of
Professional
Conduct
when
using
generative
AI​

njcourts.gov
. 


Key
points:

The
Court
made
clear
that

AI
does
not
change
lawyers’
fundamental
duties
.
Any
use
of
AI

“must
be
employed
with
the
same
commitment
to
diligence,
confidentiality,
honesty,
and
client
advocacy
as
traditional
methods
of
practice.”


njcourts.gov

In
other
words,
tech
advances

do
not

dilute
responsibilities.
The
NJ
guidelines
highlight

accuracy
and
truthfulness
:
lawyers
have
an
ethical
duty
to
ensure
their
work
is
accurate,
so
they
must

always
check
AI-generated
content
for
“hallucinations”
or
errors

before
relying
on
it​

jdsupra.com
.
Submitting
false
or
fake
information
generated
by
AI
would
violate
rules
against
misrepresentations
to
the
court.
The
guidelines
reiterate

candor
to
tribunals


attorneys
must
not
present
AI-produced
output
containing
fabricated
cases
or
facts
(the

Mata/Avianca

situation
is
alluded
to)​jdsupra.com.
Regarding

communication
and
client
consent
,
NJ
took
a
measured
approach:
There
is

“no
per
se
requirement
to
inform
a
client”

about
every
AI
use,

unless

not
telling
the
client
would
prevent
the
client
from
making
informed
decisions
about
the
representation​

jdsupra.com
.
For
example,
if
AI
is
used
in
a
trivial
manner
(typo
correction,
formatting),
disclosure
isn’t
required;
but
if
it’s
used
in
substantive
tasks
that
affect
the
case,
lawyers
should
consider
informing
the
client,
especially
if
there’s
heightened
risk.

Confidentiality:

Lawyers
must
ensure
any
AI
tool
is
secure
to
avoid
inadvertent
disclosures
of
client
info​

jdsupra.com
.
This
echoes
the
duty
to
use

“reasonable
efforts”

to
safeguard
confidential
data
(RPC
1.6).

No
misconduct:

The
Court
reminds
that
all
rules
on
attorney
misconduct
(dishonesty,
fraud,
bias,
etc.)
apply
in
AI
usage​

jdsupra.com
.
For
instance,
using
AI
in
a
way
that
produces
discriminatory
outcomes
or
that
frustrates
justice
would
breach
Rule
8.4.

Supervision:

Law
firms
must
supervise
how
their
lawyers
and
staff
use
AI

jdsupra.com


establishing
internal
policies
to
ensure
ethical
use.
Overall,
New
Jersey’s
top
court
signaled
that
it
embraces
innovation
(noting
AI’s
potential
benefits)
but
insists
lawyers

“balance
the
benefits
of
innovation
while
safeguarding
against
misuse.”


njcourts.gov


(Sources:
NJ
Supreme
Court
Guidelines


jdsupra.com


jdsupra.com
.)


Pennsylvania
&
Philadelphia
Bars

Joint
Opinion
2024-200
(June
2024)

The

Pennsylvania
Bar
Association
(PBA)

and

Philadelphia
Bar
Association

jointly
issued

Formal
Opinion
2024-200

in
mid-2024​

lawnext.com


lawnext.com
.
This
collaborative
opinion
(“Joint
Formal
Op.
2024-200”)
provides
ethical
guidance
for
Pennsylvania
lawyers
using
generative
AI.
It
repeatedly
emphasizes
that

the
same
rules
apply
to
AI
as
to
any
technology


lawnext.com
.


Key
points:

The
joint
opinion
places
heavy
emphasis
on

competence
(Rule
1.1)
.
It
famously
states

“Lawyers
must
be
proficient
in
using
technological
tools
to
the
same
extent
they
are
in
traditional
methods”


lawnext.com
.
In
other
words,
attorneys
should
treat
AI
as
part
of
the
competence
duty

understanding
e-discovery
software,
legal
research
databases,

and
now
generative
AI
,
is
part
of
being
a
competent
lawyer​

lawnext.com
.
The
opinion
acknowledges
generative
AI’s
unique
risk:
it
can

hallucinate

(generate
false
citations
or
facts)​

lawnext.com
.
Thus,
due
diligence
is
required

lawyers
must

verify
all
AI
outputs
,
especially
legal
research
results
and
citations​

lawnext.com
 lawnext.com.
The
opinion
bluntly
warns
that
if
you
ask
AI
for
cases
and

“then
file
them
in
court
without
even
bothering
to
read
or
Shepardize
them,
that
is
stupid.”


lawnext.com

(The
opinion
uses
more
polite
language,
but
this
captures
the
spirit.)
It
highlights

bias

as
well:
AI
may
carry
implicit
biases
from
training
data,
so
lawyers
should
be
alert
to
any
discriminatory
or
skewed
content
in
AI
output​

lawnext.com
.
The
Pennsylvania/Philly
opinion
also
advises
lawyers
to

communicate
with
clients

about
AI
use.
Specifically,
lawyers
should
be
transparent
and

“provide
clear,
transparent
explanations”

of
how
AI
is
being
used
in
the
case​

lawnext.com


lawnext.com
.
In
some
situations,
obtaining

client
consent

before
using
certain
AI
tools
is
recommended​

lawnext.com


lawnext.com


e.g.,
if
the
tool
will
handle
confidential
information
or
significantly
shape
the
legal
work.
The
opinion
lays
out

“12
Points
of
Responsibility”

for
using
gen
AI​

lawnext.com


lawnext.com
,
which
include
many
of
the
above:
ensure
truthfulness
and
accuracy
of
AI-derived
content,
double-check
citations,
maintain
confidentiality
(ensure
AI
vendors
keep
data
secure)​

lawnext.com
,
check
for
conflicts
(make
sure
use
of
AI
doesn’t
introduce
any
conflict
of
interest)​

lawnext.com
,
and

transparency

with
clients,
courts,
and
colleagues
about
AI
use
and
its
limitations​

lawnext.com
.
It
also
addresses

proper
billing
practices
:
lawyers
shouldn’t
overcharge
when
AI
boosts
efficiency​

lawnext.com
.
If
AI
saves
time,
the
lawyer
should
not
bill
as
if
they
did
it
manually

they
may
bill
for
the

actual

time
or
consider
value-based
fees,
but
padding
hours
violates
the
rule
on
reasonable
fees​

lawnext.com
.
Overall,
the
Pennsylvania
and
Philly
bars
take
the
stance
that
embracing
AI
is
fine

even
beneficial

as
long
as
lawyers

“remain
fully
accountable
for
the
results,”

use
AI
carefully,
and
don’t
neglect
any
ethical
duty
in
the
process​

lawnext.com


lawnext.com
.


(Sources:
Joint
PBA/Phila.
Opinion
2024-200
summarized
by
Ambrogi


lawnext.com



lawnext.com
.)


Kentucky

Ethics
Opinion
KBA
E-457
(March
2024)

The

Kentucky
Bar
Association

issued

Ethics
Opinion
KBA
E-457,
“The
Ethical
Use
of
Artificial
Intelligence
in
the
Practice
of
Law,”

on
March
15,
2024​

cdn.ymaws.com
.
This
formal
opinion
(finalized
after
a
comment
period
in
mid-2024)
provides
a
nuanced
roadmap
for
Kentucky
lawyers.
It
not
only
answers
basic
questions
but
also
offers
broader
insight,
reflecting
the
work
of
a
KBA
Task
Force
on
AI​

techlawcrossroads.com
.


Key
points:


Competence:

Like
other
jurisdictions,
Kentucky
affirms
that
keeping
abreast
of
technology
(including
AI)
is
a

mandatory

aspect
of
competence​

techlawcrossroads.com


techlawcrossroads.com
.
Kentucky’s
Rule
1.1
Comment
6
(equivalent
to
ABA
Comment
8)
says
lawyers

“should
keep
abreast
of

the
benefits
and
risks
associated
with
relevant
technology.”

The
opinion
stresses
this
is
not
optional:

“It’s
not
a
‘should’;
it’s
a
must.”


techlawcrossroads.com

Lawyers
cannot
ethically
ignore
AI’s
existence
or
potential
in
law
practice​

techlawcrossroads.com


techlawcrossroads.com

(implying
that
failing
to
understand
how
AI
might
improve
service
could
itself
be
a
lapse
in
competence).

Disclosure
to
clients:

Kentucky
takes
a
practical
stance
that
there
is

“no
duty
to
disclose
to
the
client
the
‘rote’
use
of
AI
generated
research,”

absent
special
circumstances​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
If
an
attorney
is
just
using
AI
as
a
tool
(like
one
might
use
Westlaw
or
a
spell-checker),
they
generally
need
not
inform
the
client.
However,
there
are

important
exceptions


if
the
client
has
specifically
limited
use
of
AI,
or
if
use
of
AI
presents
significant
risk
or
would
require
client
consent
under
the
rules,
then
disclosure
is
needed

techlawcrossroads.com
.
Lawyers
should
discuss

risks
and
benefits

of
AI
with
clients
if
client
consent
is
required
for
its
use
(for
example,
if
AI
will
process
confidential
data,
informed
consent
may
be
wise)​

techlawcrossroads.com
.

Fees:

KBA
E-457
is
very
direct
about
fees
and
AI.
If
AI
significantly
reduces
the
time
spent
on
a
matter,

the
lawyer
may
need
to
reduce
their
fees

accordingly​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
A
lawyer
cannot
charge
a
client
as
if
a
task
took
5
hours
if
AI
allowed
it
to
be
done
in
1
hour

that
would
make
the
fee
unreasonable.
The
opinion
also
says
a
lawyer
can
only
charge
a
client
for
the

expense

of
using
AI
(e.g.,
the
cost
of
a
paid
AI
service)
if
the
client
agrees
to
that
fee
in
writing​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
Otherwise,
passing
along
AI
tool
costs
may
be
impermissible.
In
short,
AI’s
efficiencies
should
benefit
clients,
not
become
a
hidden
profit
center.

Confidentiality:

Lawyers
have
a

“continuing
duty
to
safeguard
client
information
if
they
use
AI,”

and
must
comply
with
all
applicable
court
rules
on
AI
use​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
This
means
vetting
AI
providers’
security
and
ensuring
no
confidential
data
is
exposed.
Kentucky
echoes
that
attorneys
must

understand
the
terms
and
operation

of
any
third-party
AI
system
they
use​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
They
should
know
how
the
AI
service
stores
and
uses
data.

Court
rules
compliance:

Notably,
the
opinion
reminds
lawyers
to
follow
any
court-imposed
rules
about
AI
(for
instance,
if
a
court
requires
disclosure
of
AI-drafted
filings,
the
lawyer
must
do
so)​

cdn.ymaws.com
.

Firm
policies
and
training:

KBA
E-457
advises
law
firms
to
create
informed
policies
on
AI
use
and
to
supervise
those
they
manage
in
following
these
policies​

techlawcrossroads.com
.
In
summary,
Kentucky’s
opinion
encourages
lawyers
to
embrace
AI’s
potential
but
to
do
so
carefully:
stay
competent
with
the
technology,
be
transparent
when
needed,
adjust
fees
fairly,
protect
confidentiality,
and
always
maintain
ultimate
responsibility
for
the
work.
It
concludes
that
Kentucky
lawyers

“cannot
run
from
or
ignore
AI.”


techlawcrossroads.com


(Source:
KBA
E-457
(2024)
via
TechLaw
Crossroads
summary



techlawcrossroads.com



techlawcrossroads.com
.)


North
Carolina

Formal
Ethics
Opinion
2024-1
(November
2024)

The

North
Carolina
State
Bar

adopted

2024
Formal
Ethics
Opinion
1,
“Use
of
Artificial
Intelligence
in
a
Law
Practice,”

on
November
1,
2024​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.
This
opinion
squarely
addresses
whether
and
how
NC
lawyers
can
use
AI
tools
consistent
with
their
ethical
duties.


Key
points:

The
NC
State
Bar
gives
a
cautious

“Yes”

to
using
AI,
under
specific
conditions:

“Yes,
provided
the
lawyer
uses
any
AI
program,
tool,
or
resource
competently,
securely
to
protect
client
confidentiality,
and
with
proper
supervision
when
relying
on
the
AI’s
work
product.”


ncbar.gov
.
That
single
sentence
captures
the
three
pillars
of
NC’s
guidance:

competence
,

confidentiality
,
and

supervision
.
NC
acknowledges
that

nothing
in
the
Rules
explicitly
prohibits
AI
use


ncbar.gov
,
so
it
comes
down
to
applying
existing
rules.

Competence:

Lawyers
must
understand
the
technology
sufficiently
to
use
it
effectively
and
safely​

ncbar.gov
.
Rule
1.1
and
its
Comment
in
NC
(which,
like
the
ABA,
includes
tech
competence)
require
lawyers
to
know
what
they
don’t
know

if
a
lawyer
isn’t
competent
with
an
AI
tool,
they
must
get
up
to
speed
or
refrain.
NC
emphasizes
that
using
AI
is
often
the
lawyer’s

own
decision

but
it
must
be
made
prudently,
considering
factors
like
the
tool’s
reliability
and
cost-benefit
for
the
client​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.

Confidentiality
&
Security:

Rule
1.6(c)
in
North
Carolina
obligates
lawyers
to
take
reasonable
efforts
to
prevent
unauthorized
disclosure
of
client
info.
So,
before
using
any
cloud-based
or
third-party
AI,
the
lawyer
must
ensure
it
is

“sufficiently
secure
and
compatible
with
the
lawyer’s
confidentiality
obligations.”


ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.
The
opinion
suggests
attorneys
evaluate
providers
like
they
would
any
vendor
handling
client
data

e.g.,
examine
terms
of
service,
data
storage
policies,
etc.,
similar
to
prior
NC
guidance
on
cloud
computing​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.
If
the
AI
is

“self-learning”

(using
inputs
to
improve
itself),
lawyers
should
be
wary
that
client
data
might
later
resurface
to
others​

ncbar.gov
.
NC
stops
short
of
mandating
client
consent
for
AI
use,
but
it
implies
that
if
an
AI
tool
can’t
be
used
consistent
with
confidentiality,
then
either
don’t
use
it
or
get
client
permission.

Supervision
and
Independent
Judgment:

NC
treats
AI
output
like
work
by
a
nonlawyer
assistant.
Under
Rule
5.3,
lawyers
must
supervise
the
use
of
AI
tools
and

“exercise
independent
professional
judgment
in
determining
how
(or
if)
to
use
the
product
of
an
AI
tool”

for
a
client​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.
This
means
a
lawyer
cannot
blindly
accept
an
AI’s
result

they
must
review
and
verify
it
before
relying
on
it.
If
an
AI
drafts
a
contract
or
brief,
the
lawyer
is
responsible
for
editing
and
ensuring
it’s
correct
and
appropriate.
NC
explicitly
analogizes
AI
to
both
other
software
and
to
nonlawyer
staff:
AI
is
“between”
a
software
tool
and
a
nonlawyer
assistant
in
how
we
think
of
it​

ncbar.gov
.
Thus,
the
lawyer
must
both

know
how
to
use
the
software

and

supervise
its
output

as
if
it
were
a
junior
employee’s
work.

Bottom
line:

NC
FO
2024-1
concludes
that
a
lawyer

may

use
AI
in
practice

for
tasks
like
document
review,
legal
research,
drafting,
etc.

as
long
as
the
lawyer
remains
fully
responsible
for
the
outcome​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.
The
opinion
purposefully
doesn’t
dictate
when
AI
is
appropriate
or
not,
recognizing
the
technology
is
evolving​

ncbar.gov
.
But
it
clearly
states
that
if
a
lawyer

decides

to
employ
AI,
they
are
“fully
responsible”
for
its
use
and
must
ensure
it
is
competent
use,
confidential
use,
and
supervised
use​

ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.


(Source:
NC
2024
FEO-1
ncbar.gov


ncbar.gov
.)


Texas

Proposed
Opinion
2024-6
(Draft,
November
2024)

The

State
Bar
of
Texas
Professional
Ethics
Committee

has
circulated
a

Proposed
Ethics
Opinion
No.
2024-6

(posted
for
public
comment
on
Nov.
19,
2024)
regarding
lawyers’
use
of
generative
AI​ texasbar.com.

(As
of
this
writing,
it
is
a
draft
opinion
awaiting
final
adoption.)

This
Texas
draft
provides
a
“high-level
overview”
of
ethical
issues
raised
by
AI,
requested
by
a
Bar
task
force
on
AI​ texasbar.com.


Key
points
(draft):

The
proposed
Texas
opinion
covers
familiar
ground.
It
notes
the
duty
of

competence
(Rule
1.01)

extends
to
understanding
relevant
technology​

texasbar.com
.
Texas
specifically
cites
its
prior
ethics
opinions
on
cloud
computing
and
metadata,
which
required
lawyers
to
have
a

“reasonable
and
current
understanding”

of
those
technologies​

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
By
analogy,
any
Texas
lawyer
using
generative
AI

“must
have
a
reasonable
and
current
understanding
of
the
technology”

and
its
capabilities
and
limits​

texasbar.com
.
In
practical
terms,
this
means
lawyers
should
educate
themselves
on
how
tools
like
ChatGPT
actually
work
(e.g.
that
they
predict
text
rather
than
retrieve
vetted
sources)
and
what
their
known
pitfalls
are

texasbar.com
.
The
draft
opinion
spends
time
describing

Mata
v.
Avianca

to
illustrate
the
dangers
of
not
understanding
AI’s
lack
of
a
reliable
legal
database​

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
On

confidentiality
(Rule
1.05
in
Texas)
,
the
opinion
again
builds
on
prior
guidance:
lawyers
must
safeguard
client
information
when
using
any
third-party
service​

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
It
suggests
precautions
similar
to
those
for
cloud
storage:

“acquire
a
general
understanding
of
how
the
technology
works;
review
(and
potentially
renegotiate)
the
Terms
of
Service;
[ensure]
the
provider
will
keep
data
confidential;
and
stay
vigilant
about
data
security.”


texasbar.com
.
(These
examples
are
drawn
from
Texas
Ethics
Op.
680
on
cloud
computing,
which
the
AI
opinion
heavily
references.)
If
an
AI
tool
cannot
be
used
in
a
way
that
protects
confidential
info,
the
lawyer
should
not
use
it
for
those
purposes.
The
Texas
draft
also
flags

duty
to
avoid
frivolous
submissions
(Rule
3.01)

and

duty
of
candor
to
tribunal
(Rule
3.03)

as
directly
relevant​

texasbar.com
.
Using
AI
doesn’t
excuse
a
lawyer
from
these
obligations

citing
fake
cases
or
making
false
statements
is
no
less
an
ethical
violation
because
an
AI
generated
them.
Lawyers
must
thoroughly
vet
AI-generated
legal
research
and
content
to
ensure
it’s
grounded
in
real
law
and
facts​

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
The
opinion
essentially
says:
if
you
choose
to
use
AI,
you
must
double-check
its
work

just
as
you
would
a
junior
lawyer’s
memo
or
a
nonlawyer
assistant’s
draft
.

Supervision
(Rules
5.01,
5.03):

Supervising
partners
should
have
firm-wide
measures
so
that
any
use
of
AI
by
their
team
is
ethical

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
This
could
mean
creating
policies
on
approved
AI
tools
and
requiring
verification
of
AI
outputs.
In
summary,
the
Texas
proposed
opinion
doesn’t
ban
generative
AI;
it
provides
a
“snapshot”
of
issues
and
reinforces
that
core
duties
of
competence,
confidentiality,
candor,
and
supervision
must
guide
any
use
of
AI
in
practice

texasbar.com


texasbar.com
.
(The
committee
acknowledges
the
AI
landscape
is
rapidly
changing,
so
they
focused
on
broad
principles
rather
than
specifics
that
might
soon
be
outdated​

texasbar.com
.)
Once
finalized,
Texas’s
opinion
will
likely
align
with
the
consensus:
lawyers
can
harness
AI’s
benefits
if
they
remain
careful
and
accountable.


(Source:
Texas
Proposed
Op.
2024-6


texasbar.com



texasbar.com
.)


Virginia
State
Bar

AI
Guidance
Update
(August
2024)

In
2024
the

Virginia
State
Bar

released
a
short
set
of

guidelines
on
generative
AI

as
an
update
on
its
website
(around
August
2024)​

nydailyrecord.com
.
This
concise
guidance
stands
out
for
its
practicality
and
flexibility.
Rather
than
an
extensive
opinion,
Virginia
issued
overarching
advice
that
can
adapt
as
AI
technology
evolves​

nydailyrecord.com
. 


Key
points:

Virginia
first
emphasizes
that

lawyers’
basic
ethical
responsibilities
“have
not
changed”
due
to
AI
,
and
that
generative
AI
presents
issues
“fundamentally
similar”
to
those
with
other
technology
or
with
supervising
people​

nydailyrecord.com
.
This
frames
the
guidance:
existing
rules
suffice.
On

confidentiality
,
the
Bar
advises
lawyers
to
vet
how
AI
providers
handle
data
just
as
they
would
with
any
vendor​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com

.
Legal-specific
AI
products
(designed
for
lawyers,
with
better
data
security)
may
offer
more
protection,
but
even
then
attorneys

“must
make
reasonable
efforts
to
assess”

the
security
and

“whether
and
under
what
circumstances”

confidential
info
could
be
exposed​

nydailyrecord.com
.
In
other
words,
even
if
using
an
AI
tool
marketed
as
secure
for
lawyers,
you
should
confirm
that
it
truly
keeps
your
client’s
data
confidential
(no
sharing
or
training
on
it
without
consent)​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.
Virginia
notably
aligns
with
most
jurisdictions
(and
diverges
from
a
stricter
ABA
stance)
regarding

client
consent
:

“there
is
no
per
se
requirement
to
inform
a
client
about
the
use
of
generative
AI
in
their
matter”


nydailyrecord.com
.
Unless
something
about
the
AI
use
would
necessitate
client
disclosure
(e.g.,
an
agreement
with
the
client,
or
an
unusual
risk
like
using
a
very
public
AI
for
sensitive
info),
lawyers
generally
need
not
obtain
consent
for
routine
AI
use​

nydailyrecord.com
.
This
is
consistent
with
the
idea
that
using
AI
can
be
like
using
any
software
tool
behind
the
scenes.
Next,

supervision
and
verification
:
The
bar
stresses
that
lawyers
must
review
all
AI
outputs
as
they
would
work
done
by
a
junior
attorney
or
nonlawyer
assistant​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.
Specifically,

“verify
that
any
citations
are
accurate
(and
real)”

and
generally
ensure
the
AI’s
work
product
is
correct​

nydailyrecord.com
.
This
duty
extends
to
supervising
others
in
the
firm

if
a
paralegal
or
associate
uses
AI,
the
responsible
lawyer
must
ensure
they
are
doing
so
properly​ nydailyrecord.com.
On

fees
and
billing
,
Virginia
takes
a
clear
stance:
a
lawyer
may
not
bill
a
client
for
time

not
actually
spent

due
to
AI
efficiency
gains​

nydailyrecord.com
.

“A
lawyer
may
not
charge
an
hourly
fee
in
excess
of
the
time
actually
spent

and
may
not
bill
for
time
saved
by
using
generative
AI.”


nydailyrecord.com

If
AI
cuts
a
research
task
from
5
hours
to
1,
you
can’t
still
charge
5
hours.
The
Bar
suggests
considering
alternative
fee
arrangements
to
account
for
AI’s
value,
instead
of
hourly
billing
windfalls​

nydailyrecord.com
.
As
for
passing
along
AI
tool
costs:
the
Bar
says
you
can’t
charge
the
client
for
your
AI
subscription
or
usage

unless

it’s
a
reasonable
charge
and
permitted
by
the
fee
agreement​

nydailyrecord.com
.
Finally,
Virginia
reminds
lawyers
to
stay
aware
of
any

court
rules
about
AI
.
Some
courts
(even
outside
Virginia)
have
begun
requiring
attorneys
to
certify
that
filings
were
checked
for
AI-generated
falsehoods,
or
even
prohibiting
AI-drafted
documents
absent
verification.
Virginia’s
guidance
highlights
that
lawyers
must
comply
with
any
such
disclosure
or
anti-AI
rules
in
whatever
jurisdiction
they
are
in​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.
Overall,
the
Virginia
State
Bar’s
message
is:
use
common
sense
and
existing
rules.
Be
transparent
when
needed,
protect
confidentiality,
supervise
and
double-check
AI
outputs,
bill
fairly,
and
follow
any
new
court
requirements​

nydailyrecord.com


nydailyrecord.com
.
This
short-form
guidance
was
praised
for
being
“streamlined”
and
adaptable
as
AI
tools
continue
to
change​

nydailyrecord.com
.


(Source:
Virginia
State
Bar
AI
Guidance
via
N.Y.
Daily
Record


nydailyrecord.com



nydailyrecord.com
.)


District
of
Columbia
Bar

Ethics
Opinion
388
(September
2024)

The

D.C.
Bar

issued

Ethics
Opinion
388:
“Attorneys’
Use
of
Generative
AI
in
Client
Matters”

in
2024
(the
second
half
of
the
year)​

kaiserlaw.com
.
This
opinion
closely
analyzes
the
ethical
implications
of
lawyers
using
gen
AI,
using
the
well-known

Mata
v.
Avianca

incident
as
a
teaching
example​

kaiserlaw.com


kaiserlaw.com

.
It
then
organizes
guidance
under
specific
D.C.
Rules
of
Professional
Conduct. 


Key
points:

The
opinion
breaks
its
analysis
into
categories
of
duties​

kaiserlaw.com


kaiserlaw.com
:


  • Competence
    (Rule
    1.1):

    D.C.
    reiterates
    that
    tech
    competence
    is
    part
    of
    a
    lawyer’s
    duty.
    Attorneys
    must

    “keep
    abreast
    of

    practice
    [changes],
    including
    the
    benefits
    and
    risks
    of
    relevant
    technology.”


    kaiserlaw.com

    Before
    using
    AI,
    lawyers
    should
    understand

    how
    it
    works,
    what
    it
    does,
    and
    its
    potential
    dangers


    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    The
    opinion
    vividly
    quotes
    a
    description
    of
    AI
    as

    “an
    omniscient,
    eager-to-please
    intern
    who
    sometimes
    lies
    to
    you.”


    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com

    In
    practical
    terms,
    D.C.
    lawyers
    must
    know
    that
    AI
    output
    can
    be
    very
    convincing
    but
    incorrect.
    The
    Mata/Avianca
    saga

    where
    a
    lawyer
    unknowingly
    relied
    on
    a
    tool
    that

    “sometimes
    lies”


    underscores
    the
    need
    for
    knowledge
    and
    caution​

    dcbar.org


    dcbar.org
    .

  • Confidentiality
    (Rule
    1.6):

    D.C.’s
    Rule
    1.6(f)
    specifically
    requires
    lawyers
    to
    prevent
    unauthorized
    use
    of
    client
    info
    by
    third-party
    service
    providers​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    This
    applies
    to
    AI
    providers.
    Lawyers
    are
    instructed
    to
    ask
    themselves:

    “Will
    information
    I
    provide
    [to
    the
    AI]
    be
    visible
    to
    the
    AI
    provider
    or
    others?
    Will
    my
    input
    affect
    future
    answers
    for
    other
    users
    (potentially
    revealing
    my
    data)?”


    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    If
    using
    an
    AI
    tool
    that
    sends
    data
    to
    an
    external
    server,
    the
    lawyer
    must
    ensure
    that
    data
    is
    protected.
    D.C.
    likely
    would
    advise
    using
    privacy-protective
    settings
    or
    choosing
    tools
    that
    allow
    opt-outs
    of
    data
    sharing,
    or
    obtaining
    client
    consent
    if
    needed.
    Essentially,
    treat
    AI
    like
    any
    outside
    vendor
    under
    Rule
    5.3/1.6:
    do
    due
    diligence
    to
    ensure
    confidentiality
    is
    preserved​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .

  • Supervision
    (Rules
    5.1
    &
    5.3):

    A
    lawyer
    must
    supervise
    both
    other
    lawyers
    and
    nonlawyers
    in
    the
    firm
    regarding
    AI
    use​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    This
    may
    entail
    firm
    policies:
    e.g.,
    vetting
    which
    AI
    tools
    are
    approved
    and
    training
    staff
    to

    verify
    AI
    output

    for
    accuracy​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    If
    a
    subordinate
    attorney
    or
    paralegal
    uses
    AI,
    the
    supervising
    attorney
    should
    reasonably
    ensure
    they
    are
    doing
    so
    in
    compliance
    with
    all
    ethical
    duties
    (and
    correcting
    any
    mistakes).
    The
    opinion
    views
    AI
    as
    an
    extension
    of
    one’s
    team

    requiring
    oversight.

  • Candor
    to
    Tribunal
    &
    Fairness
    (Rules
    3.3
    and
    3.4):

    Simply
    put,
    a
    lawyer
    cannot
    make
    false
    statements
    to
    a
    court
    or
    submit
    false
    evidence​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    D.C.
    notes
    the
    existing
    comment
    to
    Rule
    3.3
    already
    forbids
    knowingly
    misrepresenting
    legal
    authority.
    Opinion
    388
    makes
    clear
    this

    includes

    presenting
    AI-fabricated
    cases
    or
    quotes
    as
    if
    they
    were
    real​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    Even
    if
    the
    lawyer
    didn’t
    intend
    to
    lie,
    relying
    on
    AI
    without
    checking
    and
    thereby
    filing
    fake
    citations
    could
    violate
    the
    duty
    of
    candor
    (at
    least
    negligently,
    if
    not
    knowingly).
    The
    lesson:

    no
    courtroom
    use
    of
    AI
    content
    without
    verification
    .
    Also,
    under
    fairness
    to
    opposing
    party
    (3.4),
    one
    must
    not
    use
    AI
    to
    manipulate
    evidence
    or
    discovery
    unfairly.

  • Fees
    (Rule
    1.5):

    The
    D.C.
    Bar
    echoed
    the
    consensus
    on
    billing:
    if
    you
    charge
    hourly,
    you

    “may
    never
    charge
    a
    client
    for
    time
    not
    expended.”


    kaiserlaw.com

    Increased
    efficiency
    through
    AI
    cannot
    be
    used
    as
    an
    opportunity
    to
    overcharge.
    They
    cite
    a
    1996
    D.C.
    opinion
    which
    said
    that
    a
    lawyer
    who
    is
    more
    efficient
    than
    expected
    (perhaps
    through
    technology
    or
    expertise)
    can’t
    then
    bill
    extra
    hours
    that
    weren’t
    worked​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    The
    same
    principle
    applies
    now:
    time
    saved
    by
    AI
    is
    the
    client’s
    benefit,
    not
    the
    lawyer’s
    windfall.
    So
    if
    AI
    drafts
    a
    contract
    in
    1
    hour
    whereas
    manual
    drafting
    would
    take
    5,
    the
    lawyer
    cannot
    bill
    5
    hours

    only
    the
    1
    hour
    actually
    spent
    (or
    use
    a
    flat
    fee
    structure
    that
    the
    client
    agrees
    on,
    but
    not
    lie
    about
    hours).

  • Client
    Files
    (Rule
    1.16(d)):

    Interestingly,
    D.C.
    Opinion
    388
    touches
    on
    whether
    AI
    interactions
    should
    be
    retained
    as
    part
    of
    the
    client
    file
    upon
    termination​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    D.C.
    law
    requires
    returning
    the
    “entire
    file”
    to
    a
    client,
    including
    internal
    notes,
    unless
    they
    are
    purely
    administrative.
    The
    opinion
    suggests
    lawyers
    should
    consider
    saving
    important
    AI
    prompts
    or
    outputs
    used
    in
    the
    representation
    as
    part
    of
    the
    file
    material
    that
    may
    need
    to
    be
    provided
    to
    the
    client​

    kaiserlaw.com


    kaiserlaw.com
    .
    For
    example,
    if
    an
    attorney
    used
    an
    AI
    tool
    to
    generate
    a
    research
    memo
    or
    a
    draft
    letter
    that
    was
    then
    edited
    and
    sent
    to
    a
    client,
    the
    initial
    AI-generated
    text
    might
    be
    analogous
    to
    a
    draft
    or
    research
    note.
    This
    is
    a
    new
    facet
    many
    haven’t
    considered:
    how
    to
    handle
    AI-generated
    work
    product
    in
    terms
    of
    file
    retention.

In
conclusion,
D.C.’s
Ethics
Opinion
388
aligns
with
other
jurisdictions
while
adding
thoughtful
details.
It

“recognizes
AI
may
eventually
greatly
benefit
the
legal
industry,”

but
in
the
meantime
insists
that
lawyers

“must
be
vigilant”


kaiserlaw.com
.
The
overarching
theme
is
captured
in
the
NPR
quote:
treat
AI
like
an
intern
who
needs
close
supervision

kaiserlaw.com
.
Do
not
assume
the
AI
is
correct;
double-check
everything,
maintain
confidentiality,
and
use
the
tool
wisely
and
transparently.
D.C.
lawyers
were
effectively
told
that
generative
AI
is
permissible
to
use,
but
only
in
a
manner
that
fully
preserves
all
ethical
obligations
as
enumerated
above​

kaiserlaw.com
.


(Sources:
D.C.
Ethics
Op.
388
via
Kaiser
summary


kaiserlaw.com


kaiserlaw.com
.)


Specialty
Bar
and
Licensing
Bodies


U.S.
Patent
and
Trademark
Office
(USPTO)

Practice
Guidance
(2023–2024)

Beyond
state
bars,
at
least
one

lawyer
licensing
body

has
addressed
AI:
the

USPTO
,
which
regulates
patent
and
trademark
attorneys.
In
2023
and
2024,
the
USPTO
issued
guidance
on
the
use
of
AI
by
practitioners
in
proceedings
before
the
Office.
On
April
10,
2024,
the
USPTO
published
a
notice
(and
a

Federal
Register

guidance
document)
concerning

“the
use
of
AI
tools
by
parties
and
practitioners”

before
the
USPTO​

uspto.gov


uspto.gov
.
This
followed
an
earlier
internal
guidance
on
Feb
6,
2024
for
USPTO
administrative
tribunals​

uspto.gov
.


Key
points:

The
USPTO
made
clear
that
existing
duties
in
its
rules
(37
C.F.R.
and
USPTO
ethics
rules)

“apply
regardless
of
how
a
submission
is
generated.”


uspto.gov

In
other
words,
whether
a
patent
application
or
brief
is
written
by
a
human
or
with
AI
assistance,
the
attorney
is
fully
responsible
for
compliance
with
all
requirements.
The
guidance
reminds
practitioners
of
pertinent
rules
and

“helps
inform

the
risks
associated
with
AI”

while
giving
suggestions
to
mitigate
them​

uspto.gov
.
For
example,
patent
attorneys
have
a
duty
of
candor
and
truthfulness
in
dealings
with
the
Office;
using
AI
that
produces
inaccurate
statements
could
violate
that
duty
if
not
corrected.
USPTO
Director
Kathi
Vidal
emphasized

“the
integrity
of
our
proceedings”

must
be
protected
and
that
the
USPTO
encourages

“safe
and
responsible
use
of
AI”

to
benefit
efficiency​

uspto.gov
.
But
critically,
lawyers
and
agents
must
ensure
AI
is

not
misused
or
left
unchecked
.
The
USPTO
guidance
likely
points
to
rules
akin
to
Fed.
R.
Civ.
P.
11:
patent
practitioners
must
make
a
reasonable
inquiry
that
submissions
(claims,
arguments,
prior
art
citations,
etc.)
are
not
frivolous
or
false,
even
if
AI
was
used
as
a
tool.
It
also
addresses

confidentiality
and
data
security

concerns:
patent
lawyers
often
handle
sensitive
technical
data,
so
if
they
use
AI
for
drafting
or
searching
prior
art,
they
must
ensure
they
aren’t
inadvertently
disclosing
invention
details.
The
USPTO
suggested

mitigation
steps

such
as:
carefully
choosing
AI
tools
(perhaps
ones
that
run
locally
or
have
strong
confidentiality
promises),
verifying
outputs
(especially
legal
conclusions
or
prior
art
relevance),
and
staying
updated
as
laws/regulations
evolve
in
this
area

uspto.gov


uspto.gov
.
In
sum,
the
USPTO’s
stance
is
aligned
with
the
bar
associations’:
AI
can
expand
access
and
efficiency,
but
practitioners
must
use
it

responsibly
.
They
explicitly
note
that
AI’s
use

“does
not
change”

the
attorney’s
obligations
to
avoid
delay,
avoid
unnecessary
cost,
and
uphold
the
quality
of
submissions​

uspto.gov
.
The

patent
bar

was
cautioned
by
the
USPTO,
much
as
litigators
were
by
the
courts,
that
any
mistakes
made
by
AI
will
be
treated
as
the
practitioner’s
mistakes.
The
Office
will
continue
to
“listen
to
stakeholders”
and
may
update
policies
as
needed​ uspto.gov,
but
for
now
practitioners
should
follow
this
guidance
and
existing
rules.


(Source:
USPTO
Director’s
announcement


uspto.gov



uspto.gov
.)


Other
Specialty
Groups

Other
specialty
lawyer
groups
and
bar
associations
have
engaged
in
policy
discussions
about
AI
(for
example,
the

American
Immigration
Lawyers
Association

and
various
sections
of
the
ABA
have
offered
CLE
courses
or
informal
tips
on
AI
use).
While
these
may
not
be
formal
ethics
opinions,
they
echo
the
themes
above:
maintain
client
confidentiality,
verify
AI
output,
and
remember
that
technology
doesn’t
diminish
a
lawyer’s
own
duties.


In
summary,
across
national,
state,
and
local
bodies
in
the
U.S.,
a
clear
consensus
has
emerged:

Lawyers
may
use
generative
AI
tools
in
their
practice,
but
they
must
do
so
cautiously
and
in
full
compliance
with
their
ethical
obligations.
Key
recommendations
include
obtaining
client
consent
if
confidential
data
will
be
involved​

jdsupra.com


nydailyrecord.com
,
understanding
the
technology’s
limits
(no
blind
trust
in
AI)​

nysba.org


kaiserlaw.com
,
thoroughly
vetting
and
supervising
AI
outputs​

ncbar.gov


kaiserlaw.com
,
and
ensuring
that
AI-driven
efficiency
benefits
the
client
(through
accurate
work
and
fair
fees)​

lawnext.com


kaiserlaw.com
.
All
the
formal
opinions

from
the
ABA
to
state
bars
like
California,
Florida,
New
York,
Pennsylvania,
Kentucky,
North
Carolina,
Virginia,
D.C.,
and
others

converge
on
the
message
that

the
lawyer
is
ultimately
responsible

for
everything
their
generative
AI
tool
does
or
produces.
Generative
AI
can
assist
with
research,
drafting,
and
more,
but
it
remains

“a
tool
that
assists
but
does
not
replace
legal
expertise
and
analysis.”


lawnext.com
.
As
the
Pennsylvania
opinion
neatly
put
it,
in
more
colloquial
terms:

don’t
be
stupid


a
lawyer
cannot
abdicate
common
sense
and
professional
judgment
to
an
AI​

lawnext.com
.
By
following
these
ethics
guidelines,
lawyers
can
harness
AI’s
benefits
(greater
efficiency
and
capability)
while
upholding
their
duties
to
clients,
courts,
and
the
justice
system.


Sources:

Formal
ethics
opinions
and
guidance
from
the
ABA
and
numerous
bar
associations,
including
ABA
Formal
Op.
512​

jenkinslaw.org
,
State
Bar
of
California
guidance​

jdsupra.com
,
Florida
Bar
Op.
24-1​

jdsupra.com
,
New
Jersey
Supreme
Court
AI
Guidelines​

jdsupra.com
,
New
York
City
Bar
Op.
2024-5​

nydailyrecord.com
,
Pennsylvania
Bar
&
Philadelphia
Bar
Joint
Op.​

lawnext.com
,
Kentucky
Bar
Op.
E-457​

techlawcrossroads.com
,
North
Carolina
Formal
Op.
2024-1​

ncbar.gov
,
D.C.
Bar
Op.
388​

kaiserlaw.com
,
and
USPTO
practitioner
guidance​

uspto.gov
.
Each
of
these
sources
provides
detailed
discussion
of
ethical
concerns
and
best
practices
for
using
generative
AI
in
law.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


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Nyamandlovu villagers stranded for two days waiting for food aid

Sources
who
spoke
to
CITE
said
the
villagers
were
stranded
in
the
bush
as
they
also
had
to
wait
for
authorities
overseeing
the
distribution
process,
who
had
travelled
to
Bulawayo.

The
delay
was
further
compounded
by
poor
road
conditions,
which
forced
the
distribution
to
take
place
in
a
bushy
area.

Some
sources
added
that
several
villages
were
left
out
of
the
distribution
altogether
due
to
missing
documentation.

“After
waiting
for
two
days,
villages
3,
4,
and
5
(Zimdabule
villages),
as
well
as
villages
7A,
7B,
and
14
(Igusi),
did
not
receive
any
food
aid
because
their
paperwork
was
missing,”
a
source
revealed.

When
contacted
for
comment,
Ward
10
Councillor
Johannes
Sibanda
downplayed
the
situation,
dismissing
reports
that
villagers
had
been
stranded
for
two
days.

“The
first
thing
is
that
two
days
means
48
hours,
and
I
think
the
person
reporting
this
does
not
understand
what
two
days
really
means.
The
vehicle
was
carrying
wheat,
and
it
is
not
the
first
to
use
that
road.
Even
buses
travel
on
the
same
route.
Yes,
the
road
has
potholes,
especially
now
that
it’s
raining,
but
that
is
normal,”
he
argued.

However,
in
a
contradictory
statement,
Councillor
Sibanda
admitted
that
the
vehicle
got
stuck
in
a
bushy
area
and
suggested
that
the
driver
might
have
been
unfamiliar
with
the
route.

“Maybe
the
driver
didn’t
know
the
road,
and
different
vehicles
have
different
power
levels.
This
one
simply
didn’t
have
enough
power,”
he
added.

Regarding
claims
that
some
villages
did
not
receive
food
aid,
Sibanda
dismissed
them,
stating
that
aid
distribution
was
not
meant
to
take
place
in
the
bush
where
the
vehicle
had
broken
down.

“It
is
not
true
that
some
people
didn’t
receive
the
wheat.
Since
the
vehicle
got
stuck
in
the
bush,
alternative
transport
had
to
be
arranged,
which
may
have
caused
delays,
but
no
one
was
left
out,”
he
said.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


Headshot




Joe
Patrice
 is
a
senior
editor
at
Above
the
Law
and
co-host
of

Thinking
Like
A
Lawyer
.
Feel
free
to email
any
tips,
questions,
or
comments.
Follow
him
on Twitter or

Bluesky

if
you’re
interested
in
law,
politics,
and
a
healthy
dose
of
college
sports
news.
Joe
also
serves
as
a

Managing
Director
at
RPN
Executive
Search
.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


Headshot




Joe
Patrice
 is
a
senior
editor
at
Above
the
Law
and
co-host
of

Thinking
Like
A
Lawyer
.
Feel
free
to email
any
tips,
questions,
or
comments.
Follow
him
on Twitter or

Bluesky

if
you’re
interested
in
law,
politics,
and
a
healthy
dose
of
college
sports
news.
Joe
also
serves
as
a

Managing
Director
at
RPN
Executive
Search
.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


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Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


Headshot




Joe
Patrice
 is
a
senior
editor
at
Above
the
Law
and
co-host
of

Thinking
Like
A
Lawyer
.
Feel
free
to email
any
tips,
questions,
or
comments.
Follow
him
on Twitter or

Bluesky

if
you’re
interested
in
law,
politics,
and
a
healthy
dose
of
college
sports
news.
Joe
also
serves
as
a

Managing
Director
at
RPN
Executive
Search
.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


Headshot




Joe
Patrice
 is
a
senior
editor
at
Above
the
Law
and
co-host
of

Thinking
Like
A
Lawyer
.
Feel
free
to email
any
tips,
questions,
or
comments.
Follow
him
on Twitter or

Bluesky

if
you’re
interested
in
law,
politics,
and
a
healthy
dose
of
college
sports
news.
Joe
also
serves
as
a

Managing
Director
at
RPN
Executive
Search
.

Judge Told Trump And Musk To Follow The Law For A Week. They’re Calling It Tyranny. – Above the Law

Is
this
a
tyranny?
(Photo
by
Apu
Gomes/Getty
Images)

Judge
Paul
Engelmayer
issued
a
Saturday

temporary
restraining
order

blocking
Elon
Musk’s
band
of
teen
tech
bro
interns
from
siphoning
Treasury
Department
data
onto
private
hard
drives
next
to
their
BitTorrent
Hobbit
porn.
Anyone
taking
the
time
to
actually
READ
the
opinion
would
see
that
it
momentarily
halts
turning
over
the
personally
identifiable
data
of
U.S.
citizens
to
anyone
who
has
not
“passed
all
background
checks
and
security
clearances
and
taken
all
information
security
training
called
for
in
federal
statutes
and
Treasury
Department
regulations”
and
ordered
any
such
person
who
has
already
copied
that
data
to
delete
it
pending
the
full
hearing
on
February
14.

The
government
has
already
moved
to
kill
the
TRO
arguing
that
it’s
a
violation
of
Article
II
to
require
the
executive
branch
to
wait
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK
to
make
sure
it’s
not
operating
in
violation
of
multiple
explicit
statutes
and
regulations.

Normally,
requiring
security
clearances
to
look
at
secure
data
wouldn’t
be
controversial.
But
it’s
2025
and
half
the
country
already
adjusted
their
schemas
to
accept
hoarding
nuclear
codes
by
a
toilet,
so
there’s
a
population
already
primed
to
get
BIG
MAD
that
the
judiciary
might
not
give
our
social
security
numbers
to
teenagers
who’ve

already
lost
jobs
for
being
cybersecurity
risks
.

Somehow
“A
corrupt
judge
protecting
corruption”

a
message
with
almost
190,000
likes

is

not

about
the
Supreme
Court’s
refusing
to
enact
ANY
enforceable

ethics
code

while
members
gobble
up
under-the-table
luxury
gifts
from
the
rich.
What
a
time
to
be
alive!

To
Beck’s
point,
it’s
not
so
much
that
the
Treasury
Secretary
cannot
access
any
data,
it’s
that
they
cannot
hand
that
data
over
to
someone
else
on
a
whim.
This
is
a
function
of
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974,
which
stated
in
relevant
part
that
an
agency
can
give
access
to
its
records
“to
those
officers
and
employees
of
the
agency…who
have
a
need
for
the
record
in
the
performance
of
their
duties.”
The
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
says
more
or
less
the
same
thing
about
Treasury
data.
As
you
might
guess
from
the
dates,
the
Privacy
Act
of
1974
and
the
Tax
Reform
Act
of
1976
exist
because
Richard
Nixon
liked
using
data
collected
for
innocent
purposes
by
one
agency
to
illegally
harass
his
various
“enemies.”
As
for
the
claim
that
the
Secretary
can’t
even
get
this

specific

data,
there
are
regulations
in
place
designed
to
prevent
government
employees
including
the
Secretary
from
having
access
to
certain
data

like
non-truncated
SSNs.

Which
is
all
to
say
an
unelected

Ketamine-head

with
deep
ties
to
China
and
random,
unvetted
teens
cannot
just
be
handed
access
to
everyone’s
unfiltered
financial
data
in
the
ordinary
course.
There
are
procedures
laid
out
for
the
administration
to
get
around
these
provisions…
Trump
and
Musk
have
done
none
of
them.
That
they’re

melting
down

over
the
prospect
of
having
to
actually
comply
with
the
law
until
at
least
Friday
tells
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
their
intentions
here.

Yale
Law
grad
JD
Vance
did
his
part
to
justify
the
school’s

impending
downgrade
in
the
U.S.
News
rankings

by
offering
a
batshit
take
on
constitutional
order.

By
God,
that’s
Andrew
Jackson’s
music!

The
apocryphal
author
of
“John
Marshall
has
made
his
decision;
now
let
him
enforce
it,”
has
come
back
stronger
than
a
90s
trend.

In
what
reads
like
an
LSAT
logic
puzzle
response
worthy
of
the
Correspondence
College
of
Tampa
Law
School
rather
than
Yale,
Vance
says
the
courts
can’t
dictate
military
operations
or
micromanage
prosecutorial
discretion

two
instances
without
explicit
relevant
statutes

to
conclude
that
therefore
courts
can’t
control
executive
power.

It’s
Q.E.D.
for
morons.

Consistency
is
the
hobgoblin
of
good
faith
actors,
but
it’s
noteworthy
that
Vance
and
his
supporters

had
a
very
different
take

when,
say,
Biden
ordered
Treasury
to
forgive
various
fees
and
interest
payments
on
student
loans.
Not
only
was
that
an
exercise
of
“the
executive’s
legitimate
power,”
but

unlike
Trump’s
order
that

violates

multiple
privacy
laws

Biden
actually
had
statutory
support
for
that
move.
Yet,
Republicans
relished
using
the
courts
to
rein
in
Biden’s
authority
over
the
Treasury.
To
this
day,
they’ll
show
up
screaming
that
Biden
“ignored
the
Supreme
Court”
when
he
launched
later,
more
minor
debt
forgiveness
programs
even
though
those
were
so
much
more
minor
because
Biden
used
different
laws
to
authorize
them
and
the
courts
never
objected
to
those.

Chief
Justice
John
Roberts

the
human
shrug
emoji
overseeing
the
collapse
of
judicial
credibility

used
last
year’s
annual
report
to

bemoan
the
idea
that
the
government
should
ignore
court
orders
.
At
the
time,
Roberts
mostly
meant
liberals
arguing
that
Trump
judges
in
far-flung,
single
courthouse
districts
shouldn’t
be
able
to
issue
nationwide
injunctions
(and
no
one
really
argued
for
ignoring
court
orders
as
much
as
demanding
reforms
to
the
assignment
process).
Now
that
the
administration
he
midwifed
back
into
being
is
in
charge,
we’ll
see
how
long
his
indignation
over
assaults
on
legitimacy
last.

But
one
thing
about
the
missive
Roberts
put
out
a
month
and
a
half
ago
rings
true.
Roberts
struck
back
at
critics
of
“unelected
politicians
in
robes”
by
smugly
pointing
out
that
judges
“typically
speak
only
through
their
decisions”
a
callback
to
Justice
Coney
Barrett’s
admonishing
that
critics
need
to
read
the
opinion
.”
These
protestations
may
be
disingenuous
coming
from
judges
who
relish
issuing
orders
without
written
opinions,
but
entirely
correct
that
the
most
damning
takedowns
of
shoddy,
politically
motivated
court
decisions
are
those
grounded
in
the
text
of
an
opinion.

Were
Musk,
Vance,
and
any
of
the
other
trolls
attacking
Judge
Engelmayer
to
actually
read
the
opinion,
they’d
find
a
textbook
example
of
a
legitimate
TRO.
The
complaint
alleges
a
massive
security
breach
in
progress,
there
are
explicit
statutes
backing
up
these
claims,
the
order
preserves
the
status
quo
and
prevents
the
irreparable
harm
of
anyone
from
turning
around
and
intentionally
or
unintentionally
letting
personally
identifiable
data
fall
into
criminal
hands
while
waiting
for
both
sides
to
fully
and
fairly
argue
the
case
in
LESS
THAN
A
WEEK.

James
Ho
invented
out
of
the
ether
a
concept
of
spiritual
damages
to
assert
an
irreparable
harm
that
the
earthly
reward
of
monetary
damages

couldn’t
overcome
if
airline
workers
had
to
wait
until
the
case
was
over
to
continue
spreading
COVID
on
planes.
Judge
Engelmayer
said,

here
are
multiple
statutes
dating
back
50
years
on
this
precise
question
and
if
you’re
right
you
can
go
back
to
gathering
this
data
next
week
but
if
you’re
wrong
everyone’s
SSN
is
going
to
be
on
the
dark
web
.

They
are
not
the
same.

But
these
folks
aren’t
really
concerned
about

this

case.
If
they
thought
they
had
a
winnable
argument
on
the
merits
they
wouldn’t
be
so
mad
at
the
TEMPORARY
order.
That’s
why
they
aren’t
arguing
whether
the
administration
is
following
the
law,
but
whether
laws
even
apply
to
the
administration
in
the
first
place.

To
this
end,
Vance
retweeted
Professor
Adrian
Vermeule

Harvard’s
resident
medievalist
cosplaying
as
a
constitutional
theorist

to
further
frame
Englemayer’s
order
as
an
illegitimate
“interference”
with
executive
power.

What
a
journey
Vermeule’s
been
on
from
getting
actively

trolled
by
the
MAGA
crowd
for
failing
to
embrace
Musk

to
declaring
it
a
“legitimate
act[]
of
state”
to
give
Musk
full
access
to
everyone’s
SSN.

For
most
constitutional
scholars,
“separation
of
powers”
is
about
the
system
of
“checks
and
balances”
that
prevent
one
branch
from
doing
whatever
it
wants.
There
may
be
internal
functions
that
don’t
provide
the
judicial
branch
oversight,
but
the
power
to
ignore
duly
passed
and
signed
legislation
is
the
heart
of
the
judiciary’s
role.

But
this
is
the
Andrew
Jackson
world
of
2025.
Or
maybe
the
right
figure
is
a
bit
more
recent
than
Jackson…


Who
had
Carl
Schmitt
on
their
2025
Constitutional
Bingo
Card?

It
will
shock
you
not
at
all
to
learn
that
Schmitt’s
philosophy
that
legality
exists
only
when
it
serves
the
will
of
the
sovereign
achieved
a
good
deal
of
popularity
in
early
20th
century
Germany.

It’s
cliche
to
compare
contemporary
regimes
to
the
Nazis,
of
course.
But,
um,
one
of
the
administration’s
cheerleaders
thinks
that
“any
aspiration
to
eliminate
the
Schmittian
elements
of
our
administrative
law”

the
rules
and
regulations
governing
the
executive

“is
utopian.”

The
idea
that

Chevron

deference
had
to
go
and
also
that
any
judicial
oversight
of
“internal”
agency
action

extended
for
the
purposes
of
Musk
to
include
disseminating
our
tax
records
to
randos
without
security
clearances

amounts
to
an
attack
on
the
Constitution
pretty
much
sums
up
Schmitt’s
worldview.

This
is
all
a
concerted
effort
to
delegitimize
the
judiciary
so
that
Trumpworld
can
justify
ignoring
court
orders
outright.
There
are
already
indications
that
the
White
House
has

ignored
other
court
orders

slapped
on
them
up
until
now.
They’ve

already

taken
Wite-Out
to
white
out
the
Fourteenth
Amendment.
Deploying
the
military
for
domestic
law
enforcement
is

openly
on
the
table
.

Building
a
quasi-legalistic
rationale
for
dictatorial
powers
is
existential
for
this
administration.


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